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Dominik Haumann: System Load Viewer

System & Utilities Last year I've blogged about the missing system monitor with the three bars for the panel and about its port to Plasma. Meanwhile other developers also did a port called System Status. In a collaboration with them we finally have the applet back in KDE's subversion, the name is now "System Load Viewer" and it uses the data engine "systemmonitor" that already exists in KDE 4.2.
So if you want to have the plasmoid for your KDE4.2 desktop, it should be straightforward to compile/install.
On the screenshot you can see the plasmoid in action. There are two instances, one on the panel and one on the desktop. The one on the left is the KDE3 one.

It's worth to mention that the plasmoid already supports more featues that the KDE3 version. Features include:
  • show all cpus (for computers with multicores)
  • tooltip updates continuously
  • nicer visualization (maybe needs some more tweaks)
As soon as the more...

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RE: @Simba

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Trolltech has just released Qt 4.1. Many new features were added since Qt 4.0, including integrated support for rendering SVG drawings and animations, a PDF backend to the Qt printing system and a lightweight ...

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Jos Poortvliet: 2009 brings good stuff

System & Utilities Hi!

Happy new year to all of ya!

Had a good start? No hangover, I hope? Mine was very manageable, hehe. Had a great party, esp around 12 when we were standing on the roof of a flat, looking out over the city of Utrecht. Beautiful place to watch the fireworks from...

What will 2009 bring? I won't speculate, I'll just point to some good tidings ;-)

Check the commit digest from the 23th and look at the statistics. First of all, over 900 bugs fixed. Good news for the stability of the KDE 42 release. And second, over 270 programmers added their code to the repository that week. I'm not such a SVN-statistics-expert like that weird brittish guy, but I believe we have a record. Not in terms of lines of code, we often cross the 9500-lines-modified-per-week mark, but looking back a few digests I never saw more than 260 people commit in one week. As Paul's green blobs show, not everybody commits each week and more...

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Mathieu Chouinard (chouimat): Happy 2009

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I think the title say it all.
so I wish everyone to have a nice year 2009, with
everything one might desire ....

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Simon St James (SSJ_GZ): Khrooty4Daily - Highly Experimental!

System & Utilities Experiment - Khrooty4Daily

Not much feedback here (but thanks to those wo did reply :)), but, hey - let's give it a go anyway!

I've cleaned up and uploaded a copy of Khrooty4Daily which you can find here. A few notes before people download it:

  • I'm going in completely blind here, and have no idea if this will work across distros - it could easily simple fail for most people at the first hurdle.

  • A chroot is not as insulated as a VM - in particular, processes started in the chroot are not separated from those started outside the chroot.

  • Again unlike a VM, it's possible for apps in a chrooted environment to e.g. crash/ lockup your X session.

  • Based on John's blog here, it seems at least possible that the chrooted KDE4Daily session won't run concurrently with an existing KDE4 session, which is a big shame, if true.

  • I have some difficulty unmounting /dev/ from the chroot, apparently necessitating a reboot if I want to delete more...

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Michael Pyne (mpyne): Happy new year 2009

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I’m sure there’s already a million “Happy New Year” type posts up but I figured I’d throw in my two cents as well (since I’m actually here for this New Year’s Day).

While I’m at it I’ll pass along some things I managed to accomplish over the past week:

  • Have some troubleshooting that you need to do that requires you to have a small partition? (In my case, troubleshooting for bug 118594). You don’t need to re-format your hard drive. Instead (at least on Linux) just create a partition on a file:
    1. Create a small-ish file (for instance, using dd if=/dev/zero of=file-name-here bs=1M count=size-in-megabytes).
    2. From there, you need to create a filesystem on it. I used plain ext2. If you’re not running as root you may need to manually run /sbin/mke2fs file-name-here. (since /sbin is normally only in the PATH for root). mke2fs should complain about the file not being a special block device but you can tell it to proceed. Please note that mke2fs is a horribly horribly destructive thing to do on a live filesystem. more...

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Adriaan de Groot (adridg): KDE IPS OpenSolaris packages available now

System & Utilities Although this will soon be last year's news, I'd like to announce the availability of KDE4 IPS packages for OpenSolaris (that try-out-Solaris live CD Sun hands out everywhere). They're hosted in a VM at the end of my personal DSL line -- and wil lgo into pending/ or contrib/ or whatever the more official places are when I can be arsed to jump through the necessary hoops, which might take a little while because of CampKDE and other travel and organizing things the coming three wekes -- but they're there. In theory pkg install KDEgdm-integration KDEbase-apps should do the whole trick, once you've set up an adidtional IPS authority. Bear in mind that htis is unsigned, untested (except that I'm writing this blog entry from inside Konqueror on OpenSolaris), sometimes setuid, certainly crashy first time alpha quality binary packaging. Think of it, perhaps, as the state of project neon from about a year ago (di dneon even exist then? it's certainly a cool efofrt to serve up daily snaps). Wobbly and incomplete, but it shows what's possible. (It also shows more...

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Kevin Krammer: Return of the king^Wdeveloper

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2008 has been a great year for me Free Software wise.

Not only did I get the opportunity to attend three awesome KDE developer meetings/sprints, I also got invited and attended the Linux Collaboration Summit.

However, personally the most important aspect of 2008 is me returning to serious KDE development. Hmm, probably not returning since my contributions in the early years more or less where heling other developers, doing a couple of fixes and enhancements, mainly in the KDE Games and KDE Edu areas.

Due to time being available to me only in small chunks of a couple of minutes but all over the day, I moved on to doing support. Both end user support as well as developer mentoring, the latter mostly on web forums such as mrunix (German), qt-forum and I am actually one of the initial guys behind QtCentre.

That was a great time as well as I find helping and receiving many people's thanks extremely gratifying more so when I discovered that people within the KDE community where actually aware more...

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Project Neon: KDE Nightly Edu++ GGadgets++

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Quick update: Newly available in Project Neon's kde-nightly is kdeedu . Newly available in the kdebase build is support for Google Gadgets .

Подробнее | Разместил: KDE News | Дата: 31.12.2008 | Прочитано: 672 | Комментарии

Rafael Fern

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First of all… HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL !!

I felt I had to do some research… and I did for couple days till yesterday morning I felt ill as hell. Now, I’m getting better, and it seems the “virus” that hit spain got me too… Anyway, I’m winning the battle to my flu.

So, before getting ill, I had a look at Qt’s signals and slots, and wondered if I could do something similar myself. Well, I called this tiny library “Ideal”, and till now it only has signals/”slots” (there are no slots, we’ll see later) and a small timer for testing purposes…

I don’t mean this thing to be huge, but I guess I will be working on it from time to time. However, it was a great thing for me seeing it working. The “bad” thing: it uses c++0x stuff to work.

Let’s see a small usage example:

#include <object.h>
#include <iostream>

using namespace Ideal;
using namespace Ideal::Core;
using namespace std;

class MyObject
: public Object
MyObject(Object *object = more...

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Shashank Singh (ssingh): Wierd but Intersting ways of Decorating your Office cubicle :P

System & Utilities here are the few weird ways you can decorate your office cubicle :D

Picture Location : Hebbal, Bangalore, Karnataka, India

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RE[4]: Unlike Trolltech + QT 4?

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Aaron Siego of KDE: "It would be very nice if our X server could use OpenGL directly for its display and composition.

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Danny Allen (dannya): Reflections on the KDE Commit-Digest

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Note: This started out as a comment on one of the Digest stories on the Dot, but I know not many people will read it there, and thought this blog a more appropriate venue than the Digest introduction section!

With the end of the year approaching, many of us are in a reflective mood, including myself.
So I decided to dust off my blog (for this limited time only!) to address the passionate, emotional and other comments about the state of my publication, the KDE Commit-Digest.

As I wrote in the first Digest after my return:
"For many reasons (like important "real-life" work and including the simple desire for a rest), the Digest has not been published for many weeks now. My plan to get up to date with current commits is to publish the weekly editions as usual on an accelerated schedule, but with no introductory content (as seen in the section above)..."

I decided that these "shorter editions" (actually, they only miss the exclusive introductory content and some extra statistics) more...

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Till Adam: A-Tumblin'

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Did some tumblin' a few days ago, as a result of me and some tram tracks at Hackescher Markt disagreeing as to the general direction of the front wheel of my bike. This resulted in a banged up wrist and rib, but no damage to the laptop or head. So while I'm still able to perform my primary function at work, namely talk, I am somewhat useless in my primary function at home, namely as a holder of hands while our daughter learns to walk. She has decided that this dire situation necessitates desperate measures and promptly started standing by herself. This works ok, as long as the realization does not hit her that no one is holding her, at which point we're back to tumblin', this time into a pile of cute making happy gurgling sounds, which I am convinced mean "Dad, check out what I did!".

My year has been awesome, folks, and the next one is promising to be even awesomerer. I wish you all the very best, for the new year, out more...

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John Layt: Dear Lazyweb

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Being lazy here, but I suspect this will be quicker than trying to work it out myself :-)  I'm using dfaures's excellent scripts as detailed on techbase to build and run trunk in a local directory while still having a stable 4.1 desktop from packages.  It works wonderfully, execpt I can't seem to solve 2 issues.
1) When building kdeedu with the experimental Marble Python support turned on it tries to install to /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/PyKDE4/, which I obviously don't want.  I've tried exporting PYTHON_SITE_PACKAGES_DIR as something local but that doesn't seem to do the trick.  Does anyone know what variable I do need to set?  This isn't a major issue now as it's now able to be turned off.
2) When trying to run the trunk startkde in Xephyr it fails, with the following being the apparently pertinant part of the log:
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /media/laptop/Programming/KDE/inst/kde4trunk/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher                        
kdeinit4: Launched KLauncher, pid = 24785 result = 0                                                                         
klauncher(24785) kdemain: Waiting for already running klauncher to exit.                                                     
klauncher(24785) more...

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Chani Armitage (Chani): adventures in plasmaland, part 1

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huzzah! I finally fixed all of plasma-overlay’s known bugs, and made the config ui actually work :) it only took a couple of days to round up the last few things, surprisingly. now I finally have the option to write code that is *not* bugfixes for my damn soc project.

I think it’s about time I did some fun little plasmoids instead of working on big crazy things. yes, we’re in feature freeze, but I’ve been bugfixing for 4 damn months :P I need a break. I have a ton of ideas for small, (hopefully) simple plasmoids and I want to try them out. I also thought it’d be fun to try and do them in ecmascript (or javascript or qtscript or whatever you call it) to see just how hard it is to do this. :)

so, join me as we dive into plasmaland and try to create a brand new widget fropm scratch without any of that silly crashy c++ :) right now I have no idea how to do this; I knlow plenty about plasma more...

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Leo Franchi (lfranchi): Context View, Reborn pt. 1

System & Utilities So as Nikolaj has been blogging about his cool new features that he has in store for Amarok 2.1, I feel obligated to reply. Can't let him steal all the thunder and PR!

Amarok 2 introduced many new features, and undoubtedly one of the most controversial ones was the context view. All of a sudden this large area was smack dab in the middle of Amarok, sticking its nose where some users didn't think it belonged. Mostly, this was because it was not always as easy or efficient to display data the data that users wanted, or it was clunky and hard to use. As the context view evolved alongside libplasma, some of the constructs that were used became outdated as well. All in all, the CV was not, in my opinion, living up to its potential and was very much one of the weaker spots of Amarok 2.0.

What is to be done? Improve it, of course! Or, in this case, rethink the basic foundation of how the user interacts with the more...

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Adriaan de Groot (adridg): OpenSolaris IPS packages for Qt 4.4.1

System & Utilities Of course there is better documentation available for IPS. I griped first, then did some more creating searching. The documentation is well hidden: this (OSOL 2008.11 IPS developer page) doesn't help much beyond saying "you need a manifest," but this (software porter's guide to IPS) has an actual example of manifest files and how to set things up for importing SysV packages.

So, having read all that, my perl script to massage our SysV specfiles into an IPS manifest (taking into account the way we talk about licenses, the dependencies and the way de set up versioning) was only 156 lines long, and it only took two totally botched IPS repositories to get me to the point that I could
# pkg install FOSSqt

So there you have it: IPS packages for an old version of Qt in a repo you can't get at because it's in a VM on my local network. Nyah, nyah.

While working on all this, and thinking "why more...

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Aaron Seigo (aseigo): hiding panels feature complete for 4.2

System & Utilities I committed the last of the changes for panel hiding for 4.2 this morning. Here's the current status of things:

  • General hiding:

    • unhides triggered only where the panel is, not along whole screen edges, making non-full-width panels behave a bit nicer

    • unhides on drag enter, hides again on drag leave. I actually ended up implementing the first half of the XDnd protocol (X11 doesn't actually do drag and drop natively!) by hand using xlib calls to make this work. Every time I touch xlib I am reminded how much a I love Qt and KDE libs for making it possible to never touch xlib for anything sane. (Unfortunately, desktop shells involve all sorts of insanity. ;)

  • Auto hiding: when the mouse leaves the panel, the panel hide; when it hits the screen edge it unhides. General features/improvements:

    • will not hide if a popup is shown, hides when the popup goes away if the mouse is not in the panel

    Compositing-only features:

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Celeste Paul (seele): Expert Review of Quassel 0.3.1

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Quassel is an IRC client and service written in Qt. It can be used as a regular IRC client, or as a distributed client subscribed to a “core” IRC service running on a local or external server. This is similar to screening text-based chats on a dedicated server.

The purpose of the review was to determine if Quassel is a suitable Qt4 replacement for Konversation as the default IRC client in Kubuntu Jaunty. Previously, Kubuntu shipped Konversation (KDE3) as the default IRC client. Kubuntu Jaunty will be 100% KDE4. We need a replacement IRC client since Konversation and the Kopete IRC plugin are not expected to be ported by then.

Kubuntu uses IRC as a main communication method for user support. As such, we require an IRC client which is easy to set up and use. Using Quassel to connect to IRC to get user support was the primary use case for the review:

  • Start Quassel
  • Connect to
  • Join #kubuntu
  • (Optional) Change your nick

Overall, I got the impression that Quassel is more...

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Kushal Das: Localisation is important

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It is not just a comment , it is a Truth.

It becomes difficult when someone tries to translate technical documents as we don’t have proper words in our own language to describe all these technical/buzz words.

Few days back I suddenly got a mail from Jaganadh G telling that he started translated my small python book in Malayalam. You can see his ongoing work here. I am very sure that this is going to help many people to understand things easily as they will be reading in their mother toung.

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Shawn Starr (spstarr): A Holiday Present - Weather Plasmoid 1.0 is finished

System & Utilities

Well, I've been extremely busy on the weather plasmoid and finally, '1.0' is ready for use. It's now moved to kdereview so that any final bugs can be shaken out. This should arrive in extragear as soon as the review is completed.

You'll notice some differences:

* New! Five day view. Special thanks to Marco Mart and Lee Olson also the wind icon.
* Dock applet to plasma panel thanks to Marco Martin for this.
* Tooltip support that displays the icon, place, condition and current temperature.
* Rearranged configuration dialog thanks to Davide Bettio for this.
* All the conversion combo boxes now work it you can mix and match any combinations.
* Clickable credits where present (depends on data source) this will take you to the original data from the source's website.
* Popup tooltips when you hover over the 5 day icons to show you what the condition will be.
* Clickable watches/warning links where present (depends on data source).
* If in Canada, if a watch or warning more...

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George Wright (gw280): ThinkPad X300 and Linux - first impressions and power consumption issues

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Today I got down and installed Ubuntu 8.10 on this new X300, and things went rather smoothly. I chose to use the ext3 filesystem on the flash disk, and not to create a swap partition (and opted to buy 4GB RAM for it).

In terms of things that work, the list is rather good. The wireless worked out of the box, sleep works, sound works, both batteries are detected, the graphics card works (with 3D acceleration) and general ACPI stuff works.

However, I have noticed a few problems.

First off (and this is really frustrating) - you can’t use the touchpad with the buttons from the TrackPoint (and vice versa). This means you can’t middle-click and drag using the touchpad. It’s frustrating because on my T43p you can, and I got into the habit of doing this because I find the buttons above are more conveniently located than the buttons beneath.

Secondly, it seems that display brightness adjustment sort of works, but keeps tripping over itself. For example, right now my screen is on 75% brightness but I can’t adjust more...

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Dario Freddi (drf__): Some updates (and infos for packagers)

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Hello everyone!

Sorry for not posting that much in the last period, but surely I’m not dead and always working. So, since time is always against us, I will post a catchup of things that matter/could matter to you.

- I moved Policykit-KDE to extragear/base. It will be in trunk from 4.3 on, though all distributions that want/need to package it can find it there. I can also set up a set of releases (just like I did with PowerDevil for KDE 4.1) if there is enough demand, so please let me know.

- Chakra got released. It is such a satisfaction, after months of work, to get such a great feedback. Thanks to everyone for their support.

- I moved my first steps with the Wicd solid engine. Now it does something - not that much, and not connecting - though it is definitely starting to work. A big thanks to Wicd developers for being very responsive and helpful, you guys rock. Ah, the code is in playground.

- If you can make some noise for Alessandro more...

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Nikolaj Hald Nielsen: From the Post 2.0.0 Git Vaults, Part 2, "The Playlist - Evolved"

System & Utilities Back in part 1 I showed a few of the things that will make it into Amarok 2 at some point ( likely for 2.1.0 ).

Today I want to show you another thing that I only recently started working on. Its another somewhat controversial part of Amarok 2, namely the playlist.

Since we first started showing screenshots of where Amarok 2 development was heading, some people have been unhappy with our idea of a new and improved playlist ( and have been extremely vocal about their displeasure ). We have tried reassuring them that the playlist would, in time, come to encompass many of the things from Amarok 2 that they were missing as well as a whole lot more, but it is always hard to communicate such ideas with no screenshots to back them up.

So, since I just today got something running that finally demonstrates some of these ideas, I rush to blog it! :-) Please note more...

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Sayak Banerjee (glade88): KDE Forum: Kourse 1 in Progress!

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KDE Forum Klassroom Kourse 1 is in progress! This kourse is being led by msoeken & the topic for this is “Fixing KSnapshot bugs”.
The Kourse started with 5 bugs as aim. Students would be required to fix them and will be guided by msoeken while doing so.
But thanks to the KSnapshot developers, three of those bugs were found fixed already! Beta 2 indeed has many bugfixes. :)
msoeken came up with 4 wishlist bugs he had in “stock”, just in case if they are needed. So presently, Kourse 1 has 6 open challenges for it’s participants and the kourse is in progression. We have 5 students participating, among which, 2 of them found us on IRC and were willing to contribute. Since now there is a significant amount of work for the participants, the kourse may extend for a few days.
After the patches would be checked and found effective, msoeken would do what is planned. ;)

So stay tuned! more...

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Boudewijn Rempt (boud): OpenSUSE 11.1

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I thought it'd be a tolerably good idea to celebrate boxing day with installing OpenSUSE 11.1. After all, given that this laptop is a Thinkpad X61t with built-in tablet, installing a new version of any distribution tends to be interesting.

And indeed, I ran into two glitches: at first, OpenSUSE 11.1 refused to install my chosen grub configuration. Putting grub on the mbr fixed that, but it was quite a bit of a bother since my laptop didn't boot except from the external cd drive. But it was also my own fault for accidentally pressing the wrong key in the dialog that asked me whether I wanted to revisit my grub options or install anyway.

The tablet was a bit harder to get working, although the fix is simple and detailed in this bug report -- simply use ttyS4 instead of ttyS0, which used to be the right port to use for a tablet pc. And you know what? The touch screen of this laptop works, too, now! Only I have to use a nail, not my fingers. I more...

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RE[5]: An obvious solution

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According to these blog posts from SUSE/Novell KDE developers that include bootcharts showing KDE startup, recent performance improvements in fontconfig and KDE/Qt have a noticeable effect on startup times.

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it-s: Happy Hlidays KDE!

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Dear KDE,

As you know we at KDEGames are always working hard and late in order to bring some joy and happiness into your every day life. We also know that the best gift is the one you make yourself. And it is with this very thoughts in mind that we bring you the following:

KDEGames media team holiday greeting card paper craft :D (we know it's long)
(Once finished the card will look something like this (Not this ugly of course :P ))

  1. Download the following two PDF files: Outer side, Inner side
  2. Follow easy instructions on the first page to make the card.

Tell us your thought, and comments. Since it's the very first product of this sort from us, there probably are some *bugs* there ;) So if you found one go ahead and file a bug report :D

Happy New Year KDE!

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George Wright (gw280): New laptop

System & Utilities

So over the last few days the fan on my T43p has been playing up, and as I’ve had it for about 3.5 years now, I decided it’s probably time to get a new one.

After a quick trip down Tottenham Court Road today, I managed to find a reseller selling the Lenovo ThinkPad X300 which I’ve been pining for ever since its release, and after some bartering managed to get hold of one along with an additional 3-cell battery to replace the CD/DVD drive with.

First impressions of the machine are really positive. The machine weighs less than my X40 did and the screen is much nicer. It’s nowhere near as good as the FlexView UXGA screen on my T43p, but I can’t get everything! Black colours aren’t great and the viewing angle vertically isn’t that good, but for a portable laptop it does the job just fine.

The keyboard is really nice - it gives a decent amount of tactile feedback (it’s better than the one on my T43p I think), and the addition of a touchpad is more...

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